In this episode of Great Dad Talks, guest Zach Watson dives deep into the often-misunderstood topic of “mental load” in modern partnerships and parenting. Zach, known for his educational and relatable takes on invisible labor in relationships, shares how the mental and emotional workload disproportionately impacts women—often in ways that go unrecognized by men.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Learn what “mental load” and invisible labor in households really mean beyond just doing chores.
- Discover why uneven mental load can create frustration, loneliness, and even lead to divorce.
- Explore practical approaches, like the Fair Play system, to help fairly divide household responsibilities.
- Hear why it’s important for men to get involved and how doing so can improve connection and teamwork at home.
- Discover support systems Zach offers, including educational content and a welcoming community for dads to ask questions and grow.
In my latest episode of Great Dad Talks, I had a deep and insightful conversation with Zach Watson about something that hits home for a lot of dads and couples these days: the unseen mental load and invisible labor that exists in our partnerships, especially in parenting.
The Unseen Side of Modern Fatherhood
Zach Watson isn’t the first person to talk about the concept of “mental load,” but as he says, “I think I’ve gotten really loud and consistently loud about it. A lot of what I learned was from a of lot lot of women, the first book being Fair Play.” What struck me about Zach’s approach is how he translates these everyday challenges into language that resonates with men, helping us understand what our partners have been experiencing for, well, millennia.
We started by talking about the long-standing complaints about household division of labor, but Zach was quick to clarify: “The biggest umbrella term that I often use is invisible labor. So, I think when we think of chores, we’re thinking about very physical in nature—things you could quantify… The mental load associated with that might be knowing that your toddler is probably going to trip over them if they’re not in the appropriate place… Or the thinking around, okay, how is that going to change the value of this house, and is it going to get gross?”
Breaking Down Invisible Labor: Three Key Types
Zach breaks down “invisible labor” into three main categories:
- Domestic Labor: The visible, physical tasks like putting away shoes or cleaning up after the kids.
- Mental Load: The behind-the-scenes work—anticipating, planning, and remembering (for example, “knowing that if there’s typically some wetness on the bottom of them and it’s a wood floor, we need a little catcher for the water”).
- Emotional Labor: The stress and emotional energy, like “thinking about, oh, when my mother-in-law comes in, she’s going to be judging everything in my home. So for fork’s sake, please put your shoes where they belong.”
His insight: “When you can see the three categories, when you can describe them, I think a lot more husbands start appreciating the heaviness of what they experience, especially in their careers, but also start much better appreciating why their partners feel so lonely and unsupported in a lot of ways.”
Why Does This Matter for Men?
If you’re a guy reading this and thinking, “I just don’t get why these things weigh so heavily,” you’re not alone. Zach had a powerful way to reframe it for us: “We typically put energy into things that we are expecting to be judged for… a lot of men are judged on how much money they bring in, how well they’re ‘providing.’ And so we take our careers probably more seriously than we ought to because that’s how we see that we’re going to be judged from a societal standpoint.”
He pointed out that for women, the home and family have been the domain where their value is (often unfairly) measured—so their to-do list isn’t just a checklist, it’s a reflection of identity, self-worth, and fear of being judged.
Moving from “Her List vs. His List” to “Our List”
I posed the question, “Are we trying to get everybody more focused on her list, or are we trying to get a deeper understanding that both parts of an equally working relationship have different trigger points?”
Zach’s response was clear: “It’s not his list or hers list, it’s not either of their lists. It’s the list that exists for the home. And a lot of times the management of that list tends to fall on moms… Women are saying, like, hell, no, I don’t want to have a child, because the mental loads are on me.”
He also reminded us, “Marriage benefits married men significantly more than it benefits married women; it’s like married men live longer. And similarly, single women live longer than married women… That’s a huge source of loneliness for [women].”
How Fear—and Understanding—Motivates Change
I asked, “What should motivate men to at least have an idea of these concepts? Maybe first it’s fear—fear that you’re going to lose your relationship over time.”
Zach agreed, saying, “That’s for sure where I started and where I wanted to get my marriage back. But I think also being able to have a significantly better understanding of where invisible labor lies, it also helps you appreciate why things don’t work around you.”
He offered a great practical example involving his friends and a “doodle poll” to help organize a meetup—a moment where he took on the invisible labor, and his friends recognized it with, “Zach, thanks for handling the mental load.”
A Fair Play Approach: Making Responsibilities Visible
Zach recommends the Fair Play book and method (by Eve Rodsky) as a practical tool for dividing household labor, not just by splitting chores but by keeping “conception, planning, and execution” together with one person. He explained, “The Fair Play method helps people really build awareness around the invisible labor that exists with every single responsibility in the home.”
Key Tips for Dads
Here’s some actionable advice inspired by Zach Watson:
- Recognize Invisible Labor: Acknowledge the hidden planning and emotional management that happens behind the scenes.
- Appreciate Out Loud: Say things like, “I appreciate you reminding me because I forgot about it—I had a lot going on.”
- Avoid the ‘Nag’ Trap: Realize that if your partner is reminding you of something, it’s because they’re carrying the mental load—don’t punish them for it.
- Use Tools Like Fair Play Cards or the Persist App: These can help map out and visualize household responsibilities so you can have an honest, data-driven conversation about balance.
- Work Toward Your Shared Values: If your partner is more concerned about dusting or tidying, try to understand why, rather than dismiss the task as unnecessary.
Making Change—And Finding Fulfillment—Together
Ultimately, it’s about “having a significantly better understanding of where invisible labor lies,” Zach said. When we recognize this, “we have a lot more empathy for the people around us, and a lot more both appreciation for the work that we do and other people do around us.”
As husbands and fathers, there’s real fulfillment to be found in stepping into partnership—not just as a favor, not as emasculation, but as the foundation of a truly strong, modern relationship.
Resources & Community
If you’re interested in learning more from Zach, he’s built a community specifically for men looking for honest answers in a supportive environment. “The free community is really built for men to be able to ask those what may be considered dumb questions, and I will answer with humility.”
And if you want to keep up with his educational content, check out his YouTube channel for more in-depth videos on the mental load and partnership in parenting.
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