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Rethinking Education with Matt Bowman

September 9, 2025 by Paul Banas

Let’s dive deep into the topic of modern education with special guest Matt Bowman, co-author of the book “Open Education.” Whether your child is in public school, private school, or something in between, this episode is packed with practical insights on meeting kids where they are, reducing stress, and nurturing real-world problem-solving skills—including entrepreneurship.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  1. Learn how to move beyond traditional, one-size-fits-all schooling and embrace more personalized, flexible learning models.
  2. Discover how to use local programs, museums, and organizations to enrich your child’s education.
  3. Get practical tips to actively design and advocate for the best educational path for your child, regardless of their school setting.
  4. Find out why teaching entrepreneurial skills and using AI tools prepares kids for the future—and how to get started.
  5. Explore a free toolkit for identifying your child’s interests and finding resources to support them, all while minimizing stress.

As a dad, education is always at the forefront of my mind. What will make my kids thrive? Are we preparing them for a future that’s rapidly evolving—especially in the age of AI? In a recent episode of Great Dad Talks, I had the privilege of interviewing Matt Bowman, co-author of the bestselling book Open Education and a father of five. Matt’s passion for transforming education and empowering parents is not just inspiring, but actionable for today’s families.

Why We Need to Rethink Education

Matt’s journey into educational reform began at home. He and his wife, despite having consistent expectations and structure for their five kids, discovered that “all five children were different from each other.” Their standardized approach to parenting didn’t yield standardized kids—and that eye-opening realization made them question why education doesn’t allow for more individuality.

Matt explained, “We started to look over the fence at their schooling plans and we’re like, well, each child also needs something different. So that was kind of the genesis of our open education movement.”

He challenged us on the labels we’re used to—public, private, charter, homeschool—and urged parents to “drop the labels, tap into whatever resources help your child be successful.” The “open education” mindset, as he calls it, is about personalized pathways, not about adhering to one system or another.

The Role of Parents: Step In and Step Up

One of Matt’s core messages is that parents are uniquely positioned to be designers of their child’s educational journey, especially now, as traditional systems are slow to adapt. He encouraged us to embrace a more proactive role:

“We’re not advocating one path over the other. We’re advocating parents, especially with the AI fear that we all have, step up and step into this role of designing personalized education pathways for your kids.”

This doesn’t mean you must overhaul everything or homeschool exclusively; rather, that you leverage whatever resources—school, community, technology, extracurriculars—fit your child best.

Overcoming the Trap of Overscheduling

Like many parents, I confessed to Matt that we often fill our kids’ after-school hours with enrichment activities in hopes they’ll discover their passion. But this “jam-packed” lifestyle is often exhausting for everyone.

Matt’s advice hit home:

  • “Often our kids are overstructured and what they are lacking the most is unstructured free time.”
  • “Many of the chapters in the book advocate for de-stressing your child first. You’ve got to go through a little of the detox to let them be unstructured before you can start discovering what they like or don’t like.”

Key Takeaways:

  • Prioritize unstructured free time so children have space to discover their interests.
  • Consider integrating enrichment activities during the day, rather than on top of a full school schedule.
  • If your current rhythm isn’t working, rethink it—it’s possible to restructure with the right support.

How Schools and Communities Can Collaborate

Matt and his team actually partner with public schools to provide flexible, personalized education models. He shared, “We partner with public school districts and do that program for kids who want it… We say contract with us and we’ll serve students on your behalf in that model. We’ll meet state compliance, we’ll do all the state testing, while at the same time personalizing the child’s education.”

It’s a model that works within the system while changing it from the inside out—and it’s spreading, with Matt’s organization now serving tens of thousands of students across the country.

The Coming Age of AI and Entrepreneurship

It’s not just about how we learn, but what we learn. With degrees signaling less than ever before (and, as Matt quoted, “Higher ed’s diploma is now signaling that you can cheat and not get caught”), we need to help our kids become adaptable, curious, and entrepreneurial.

Matt sees AI as a powerful tool for both parents and students:

“We say tap into all the resources available. AI in as many forms are a resource… Use it as a tool to enhance your human nature and creativity.”

He also strongly advocates for entrepreneurship—not just for earning money, but for learning core life skills:

  • Identify a real-world goal or need (“How are you going to pay for that $300 guitar?”)
  • Use AI to brainstorm ways to achieve those goals
  • Encourage teamwork and interdisciplinary collaboration (“Businesses operate in a mix of talents, a mix of personalities, a mix of skills and interests. That’s what entrepreneurship also teaches.”)

For Parents: Where to Start

If any of this resonates with you, Matt recommends beginning with his Open Education Toolkit, available for free on opened.co. It’s a practical resource to help families map out their interests, needs, and resources—and create a tailored plan.

Toolkit highlights:

  • Interest, needs, and resource analysis
  • Mapping family budget and community offerings
  • Sticky note brainstorming exercises

Final Thoughts

We finished our conversation talking about the importance of supporting our kids’ unique journeys—even if they don’t match our original hopes or reputational dreams. As Matt reminded us, “You have to set aside your reputation… If they’re happy, productive citizens, celebrate it. Don’t have this reputation imposed on them that 200 years have told you you have to have.”

Let’s rethink education together:

  • Embrace flexibility
  • Use the community
  • Lean into new tools like AI
  • Prioritize what your child needs, not what the system prescribes

For more on this topic, don’t miss the full episode with Matt Bowman and check out his resources at opened.co.

Matt Bowman

Matt Bowman is a father of five, education innovator, and co-author of the bestselling book Open Education. Drawing from inspiration by Clayton Christensen, Matt has spent over 17 years pioneering personalized learning models that break free from the traditional “one-size-fits-all” school approach. As founder of OpenEd Co, he partners with public and private schools across the U.S., providing customized learning pathways that leverage technology, community resources, and even entrepreneurship for students and their families.

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